Vince Carter vs. Darryl Dawkins Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Darryl Dawkins and Vince Carter, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Vince Carter played 22 years in the NBA, 8 more than Darryl Dawkins, who played 14. Vince Carter had the first of his seasons in 1998-99, while Darryl Dawkins had his rookie season in 1975-76. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Vince Carter 22 11 1998-99 to 2019-20
Darryl Dawkins 14 10 1975-76 to 1988-89

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 1998-991975-76
Team Toronto RaptorsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement Rookie of the Year-
Achievement All-Rookie First Team-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 50 35.2 18.3 1.9 3.8 5.7 3.0 1.1 1.5 2.2 2.8 6.9 15.3 .450 0.4 1.3 .288 4.1 5.4 .761
Darryl Dawkins 37 4.5 2.4 0.4 0.9 1.3 0.1 0.1 0.2 - 1.1 1.1 2.2 .500 - - - 0.2 0.6 .333
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 2

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 1999-001976-77
Team Toronto RaptorsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Raptors Lost East Conf 1st Rd76ers Lost NBA Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 82 38.1 25.7 1.8 4.0 5.8 3.9 1.3 1.1 2.2 3.2 9.6 20.7 .465 1.2 2.9 .403 5.3 6.7 .791
Darryl Dawkins 59 11.6 5.3 1.0 2.9 3.9 0.4 0.2 0.8 - 2.2 2.3 3.6 .628 - - - 0.7 1.3 .506
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 3 39.7 19.3 3.0 3.0 6.0 6.3 1.0 1.3 2.7 4.0 5.0 16.7 .300 0.3 3.3 .100 9.0 10.3 .871
Darryl Dawkins 18 18.4 7.3 0.5 4.9 5.4 0.9 0.4 1.0 - 2.6 2.8 5.3 .526 - - - 1.7 2.6 .660

Season 3

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2000-011977-78
Team Toronto RaptorsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Raptors Lost East Conf Semis76ers Lost East Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 75 39.7 27.6 2.3 3.2 5.5 3.9 1.5 1.1 2.2 2.7 10.2 22.1 .460 2.2 5.3 .408 5.1 6.7 .765
Darryl Dawkins 70 24.6 11.7 1.7 6.3 7.9 1.2 0.5 1.8 1.8 3.8 4.7 8.2 .575 - - - 2.2 3.1 .709
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 12 45.1 27.3 3.1 3.4 6.5 4.7 1.7 1.7 2.3 3.8 10.2 23.3 .436 2.1 5.1 .410 4.8 6.2 .784
Darryl Dawkins 10 18.0 6.3 0.6 5.1 5.7 1.0 0.3 1.5 1.4 3.4 2.7 5.3 .509 - - - 0.9 1.7 .529

Season 4

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2001-021978-79
Team Toronto RaptorsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not Play76ers Lost East Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 39.8 24.7 2.3 2.9 5.2 4.0 1.6 0.7 2.6 3.2 9.3 21.8 .428 2.0 5.2 .387 4.1 5.1 .798
Darryl Dawkins 78 26.1 13.1 1.6 6.5 8.1 1.6 0.4 1.8 2.5 3.8 5.5 10.7 .517 - - - 2.0 3.0 .672
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins 9 28.3 16.0 2.3 6.8 9.1 1.3 0.2 1.8 1.9 4.7 6.2 11.8 .528 - - - 3.6 5.2 .681

Season 5

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2002-031979-80
Team Toronto RaptorsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not Play76ers Lost NBA Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 43 34.2 20.6 1.4 3.0 4.4 3.3 1.1 1.0 1.7 2.8 8.3 17.7 .467 1.0 3.0 .344 3.0 3.7 .806
Darryl Dawkins 80 31.8 14.7 2.5 6.2 8.7 1.9 0.6 1.8 2.9 4.1 6.2 11.8 .522 0.0 0.1 .000 2.4 3.6 .653
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins 18 33.7 17.3 2.4 5.2 7.6 1.8 0.7 2.3 2.6 4.2 7.0 13.2 .529 0.0 0.2 .000 3.3 5.2 .645

Season 6

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2003-041980-81
Team Toronto RaptorsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not Play76ers Lost East Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 38.2 22.5 1.3 3.5 4.8 4.8 1.2 0.9 3.1 2.9 8.3 20.0 .417 1.3 3.3 .383 4.6 5.7 .806
Darryl Dawkins 76 27.5 14.0 1.4 5.8 7.2 1.4 0.5 1.5 2.9 4.2 5.6 9.2 .607 0.0 0.0 - 2.9 4.0 .720
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins 16 26.3 13.8 1.8 4.4 6.1 0.9 0.2 1.0 2.3 4.4 5.4 9.6 .562 0.0 0.0 - 3.1 4.3 .721

Season 7

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2004-051981-82
Team Toronto Raptors, New Jersey NetsPhiladelphia 76ers
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf 1st Rd76ers Lost NBA Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 77 36.7 24.5 1.4 3.8 5.2 4.2 1.4 0.6 2.2 3.2 9.0 20.0 .452 1.6 4.1 .406 4.8 6.0 .798
Darryl Dawkins 48 23.4 11.0 1.4 4.9 6.4 1.1 0.4 1.1 2.0 4.0 4.3 7.6 .564 0.0 0.0 .000 2.4 3.4 .695
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 45.3 26.8 2.3 6.3 8.5 5.8 2.3 0.0 3.8 4.3 8.8 24.0 .365 1.5 4.8 .316 7.8 9.0 .861
Darryl Dawkins 21 21.9 11.0 1.1 3.6 4.7 0.5 0.3 1.7 1.8 4.5 4.7 8.5 .556 0.0 0.0 - 1.6 2.4 .660

Season 8

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2005-061982-83
Team New Jersey NetsNew Jersey Nets
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf SemisNets Lost East Conf 1st Rd
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 79 36.8 24.2 1.7 4.1 5.8 4.3 1.2 0.7 2.7 3.0 8.3 19.2 .430 1.6 4.6 .341 6.1 7.6 .799
Darryl Dawkins 81 25.8 12.0 1.6 3.6 5.2 1.4 0.8 1.9 3.5 4.7 5.0 8.3 .599 0.0 0.0 - 2.0 3.2 .646
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 11 40.9 29.6 1.5 5.5 7.0 5.3 1.8 0.5 2.4 3.1 10.3 22.2 .463 1.3 5.3 .241 7.8 9.8 .796
Darryl Dawkins 2 29.5 18.0 1.0 4.0 5.0 1.0 2.0 2.5 4.0 3.5 8.5 11.0 .773 0.0 0.5 .000 1.0 1.0 1.000

Season 9

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2006-071983-84
Team New Jersey NetsNew Jersey Nets
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Nets Lost East Conf SemisNets Lost East Conf Semis
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 82 38.1 25.2 1.4 4.6 6.0 4.8 1.0 0.4 2.6 3.2 8.9 19.5 .454 1.9 5.3 .357 5.6 7.0 .802
Darryl Dawkins 81 29.8 16.8 2.0 4.7 6.7 1.5 0.7 1.7 2.9 4.8 6.3 10.6 .593 0.0 0.1 .400 4.2 5.7 .735
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 12 40.6 22.3 1.4 5.4 6.8 5.3 0.9 0.6 3.2 2.9 7.8 19.6 .396 1.8 4.5 .389 5.1 7.3 .693
Darryl Dawkins 11 30.9 18.4 2.0 4.2 6.2 1.2 0.5 0.9 2.9 4.7 6.0 10.7 .559 0.0 0.3 .000 6.4 7.5 .843

Season 10

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2007-081984-85
Team New Jersey NetsNew Jersey Nets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayNets Lost East Conf 1st Rd
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 76 38.9 21.3 1.5 4.5 6.0 5.1 1.2 0.4 2.4 3.2 7.7 16.9 .456 1.3 3.6 .359 4.6 5.6 .816
Darryl Dawkins 39 24.9 13.5 1.4 3.2 4.6 1.2 0.4 0.9 2.4 4.4 4.9 8.7 .566 0.0 0.0 .000 3.7 5.2 .711
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins 3 21.3 8.3 1.3 3.3 4.7 1.3 0.7 2.0 2.3 4.3 3.7 7.7 .478 0.0 0.0 - 1.0 1.3 .750

Season 11

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2008-091985-86
Team New Jersey NetsNew Jersey Nets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayNets Lost East Conf 1st Rd
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 80 36.8 20.8 0.9 4.2 5.1 4.7 1.0 0.5 2.1 2.9 7.4 16.8 .437 1.9 4.9 .385 4.2 5.1 .817
Darryl Dawkins 51 23.7 15.3 1.7 3.3 4.9 1.5 0.3 1.2 2.4 4.5 5.6 8.6 .644 0.0 0.0 .000 4.1 5.8 .707
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins 1 17.0 10.0 1.0 2.0 3.0 3.0 0.0 2.0 2.0 4.0 4.0 6.0 .667 0.0 0.0 - 2.0 3.0 .667

Season 12

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2009-101986-87
Team Orlando MagicNew Jersey Nets
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Magic Lost East Conf FinalsDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 75 30.8 16.6 0.4 3.5 3.9 3.1 0.7 0.2 1.4 2.5 5.8 13.5 .428 1.6 4.3 .367 3.4 4.1 .840
Darryl Dawkins 6 17.7 9.5 1.5 1.7 3.2 0.3 0.3 0.5 2.5 4.2 3.3 5.3 .625 0.0 0.0 - 2.8 4.0 .708
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 14 34.3 15.5 0.6 3.6 4.2 2.3 0.9 0.2 1.6 3.6 5.3 13.1 .402 0.9 3.6 .235 4.1 4.9 .826
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 13

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2010-111987-88
Team Orlando Magic, Phoenix SunsUtah Jazz, Detroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 28.1 14.0 0.7 3.0 3.8 2.0 0.9 0.3 1.2 2.6 5.3 12.2 .437 1.6 4.4 .361 1.8 2.4 .740
Darryl Dawkins 6 5.5 1.7 0.3 0.5 0.8 0.3 0.0 0.3 1.2 2.3 0.3 1.5 .222 0.0 0.0 - 1.0 2.5 .400
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 14

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2011-121988-89
Team Dallas MavericksDetroit Pistons
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 61 25.3 10.1 0.5 2.8 3.4 2.3 0.9 0.4 1.4 2.2 3.7 8.9 .411 1.2 3.4 .361 1.6 1.9 .826
Darryl Dawkins 14 3.4 1.9 0.2 0.3 0.5 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 0.9 0.6 1.4 .474 0.0 0.0 - 0.6 1.3 .500
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 26.8 8.3 1.3 4.3 5.5 0.3 1.3 0.5 1.5 2.8 3.0 10.3 .293 0.8 2.5 .300 1.5 2.0 .750
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 15

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2012-13-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 81 25.8 13.4 0.7 3.4 4.1 2.4 0.9 0.5 1.3 2.8 4.6 10.6 .435 2.0 4.9 .406 2.2 2.8 .816
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 16

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2013-14-
Team Dallas Mavericks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Mavericks Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 81 24.4 11.9 0.8 2.7 3.5 2.6 0.8 0.4 1.3 2.6 4.1 10.0 .407 1.8 4.6 .394 2.0 2.4 .821
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 7 27.1 12.6 1.0 2.6 3.6 2.4 0.4 0.3 0.9 1.7 4.4 9.7 .456 2.1 4.4 .484 1.6 2.0 .786
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 17

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2014-15-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf Semis-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 66 16.5 5.8 0.4 1.6 2.0 1.2 0.7 0.2 0.7 1.5 2.0 6.2 .333 1.0 3.5 .297 0.7 0.9 .789
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 11 17.8 6.3 1.2 3.1 4.3 1.0 0.6 0.2 0.6 1.5 2.5 6.1 .403 0.6 2.5 .250 0.7 0.8 .889
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 18

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2015-16-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 16.8 6.6 0.5 1.9 2.4 0.9 0.6 0.3 0.6 1.7 2.2 5.7 .388 1.0 2.8 .349 1.2 1.4 .833
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 4 22.8 11.3 1.3 2.5 3.8 1.3 0.5 0.3 0.8 2.3 3.8 8.3 .455 1.8 2.5 .700 2.0 2.0 1.000
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 19

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2016-17-
Team Memphis Grizzlies-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Grizzlies Lost West Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 73 24.6 8.0 0.5 2.6 3.1 1.8 0.8 0.5 0.7 2.2 2.6 6.7 .394 1.5 4.1 .378 1.2 1.6 .765
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 6 32.5 9.2 0.7 2.7 3.3 1.5 0.3 0.0 1.7 2.5 3.3 7.0 .476 1.3 3.3 .400 1.2 1.2 1.000
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 20

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2017-18-
Team Sacramento Kings-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 58 17.7 5.4 0.3 2.2 2.6 1.2 0.7 0.4 0.6 1.7 2.0 4.9 .403 1.0 2.8 .345 0.5 0.6 .757
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 21

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2018-19-
Team Atlanta Hawks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 76 17.5 7.4 0.4 2.1 2.6 1.1 0.6 0.4 0.6 1.9 2.6 6.2 .419 1.6 4.2 .389 0.6 0.9 .712
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------

Season 22

Vince Carter Darryl Dawkins
Season 2019-20-
Team Atlanta Hawks-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter 60 14.6 5.0 0.3 1.8 2.1 0.8 0.4 0.4 0.6 1.5 1.8 5.1 .352 1.0 3.4 .302 0.4 0.5 .793
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Vince Carter ------- --- ----------
Darryl Dawkins ------- --- ----------