Ray Allen vs. Norm Van Lier Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Norm Van Lier and Ray Allen, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Ray Allen played 18 years in the NBA, 8 more than Norm Van Lier, who played 10. Ray Allen had the first of his seasons in 1996-97, while Norm Van Lier had his rookie season in 1969-70. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers
Player	Total Seasons	Playoffs Played	NBA Years
Ray Allen	18	11	1996-97 to 2013-14
Norm Van Lier	10	5	1969-70 to 1978-79

Comparison Season by Season
Jump to season: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18


Rookie Season
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	1996-97	1969-70
Team	Milwaukee Bucks	Cincinnati Royals
Honors & Awards	All-Rookie Second Team	-
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	82	30.9	13.4	1.2	2.8	4.0	2.6	0.9	0.1	1.8	2.7	4.8	11.1	.430	1.4	3.6	.393	2.5	3.0	.823
Norm Van Lier	81	35.7	9.5	-	-	5.0	6.2	-	-	-	4.1	3.7	9.2	.403	-	-	-	2.0	2.8	.741

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 2
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	1997-98	1970-71
Team	Milwaukee Bucks	Cincinnati Royals
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive Second Team
Honors & Awards	-	Assists Leader
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	82	40.1	19.5	1.5	3.4	4.9	4.3	1.4	0.1	3.2	3.0	6.9	16.0	.428	1.6	4.5	.364	4.2	4.8	.875
Norm Van Lier	82	40.5	16.0	-	-	7.1	10.1	-	-	-	4.2	5.8	13.9	.420	-	-	-	4.4	5.4	.816

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 3
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	1998-99	1971-72
Team	Milwaukee Bucks	Cincinnati Royals, Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive Second Team
Playoffs	Bucks Lost East Conf 1st Rd	Bulls Lost West Conf Semis

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	50	34.4	17.1	1.1	3.1	4.2	3.6	1.1	0.1	2.4	2.3	6.1	13.5	.450	1.5	4.2	.356	3.5	3.9	.903
Norm Van Lier	79	30.6	11.5	-	-	4.5	6.9	-	-	-	3.0	4.2	9.6	.439	-	-	-	3.0	3.8	.790

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	3	40.0	22.3	2.7	4.7	7.3	4.3	1.0	0.3	3.7	3.0	8.3	15.7	.532	3.0	6.3	.474	2.7	4.3	.615
Norm Van Lier	4	36.0	14.0	-	-	6.3	8.3	-	-	-	3.8	5.5	13.3	.415	-	-	-	3.0	3.5	.857


Season 4
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	1999-00	1972-73
Team	Milwaukee Bucks	Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive Second Team
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Bucks Lost East Conf 1st Rd	Bulls Lost West Conf Semis

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	82	37.4	22.1	1.0	3.4	4.4	3.8	1.3	0.2	2.2	2.3	7.8	17.2	.455	2.1	5.0	.423	4.3	4.9	.887
Norm Van Lier	80	36.0	13.9	-	-	5.5	7.1	-	-	-	3.4	5.9	13.3	.445	-	-	-	2.1	2.6	.787

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	5	37.4	22.0	2.0	4.6	6.6	2.6	1.6	0.0	1.8	2.0	8.0	18.0	.444	2.0	5.2	.385	4.0	4.4	.909
Norm Van Lier	7	36.9	14.4	-	-	5.3	5.1	-	-	-	4.6	6.4	18.4	.349	-	-	-	1.6	2.1	.733


Season 5
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2000-01	1973-74
Team	Milwaukee Bucks	Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	-	All-NBA Second Team
	All-NBA Third Team	-
	-	All-Defensive First Team
	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Bucks Lost East Conf Finals	Bulls Lost West Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	82	38.2	22.0	1.2	4.0	5.2	4.6	1.5	0.2	2.5	2.3	7.7	16.0	.480	2.5	5.7	.433	4.2	4.8	.888
Norm Van Lier	80	35.8	14.3	1.4	3.3	4.7	6.9	2.0	0.1	-	3.5	5.3	13.1	.406	-	-	-	3.6	4.6	.778

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	18	42.7	25.1	1.1	3.1	4.1	6.0	1.3	0.6	2.4	2.4	8.8	18.4	.477	3.2	6.6	.479	4.4	4.8	.919
Norm Van Lier	11	42.4	14.6	1.0	3.3	4.3	6.8	1.5	0.3	-	3.7	5.5	13.1	.424	-	-	-	3.5	4.3	.830


Season 6
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2001-02	1974-75
Team	Milwaukee Bucks	Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive Second Team
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Bulls Lost West Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	69	36.6	21.8	1.2	3.3	4.5	3.9	1.3	0.3	2.3	2.3	7.7	16.6	.462	3.3	7.7	.434	3.1	3.6	.873
Norm Van Lier	70	37.0	15.0	1.2	3.5	4.7	5.8	2.0	0.2	-	3.5	5.8	13.9	.420	-	-	-	3.4	4.3	.792

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	13	42.1	15.1	1.4	3.8	5.2	4.7	1.5	0.4	-	4.0	5.2	12.6	.409	-	-	-	4.8	6.4	.747


Season 7
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2002-03	1975-76
Team	Milwaukee Bucks, Seattle Supersonics	Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive First Team
Honors & Awards	-	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	76	37.9	22.5	1.2	3.8	5.0	4.4	1.4	0.2	2.6	2.9	7.9	17.9	.439	2.6	7.0	.377	4.2	4.5	.916
Norm Van Lier	76	39.8	12.6	1.8	3.6	5.4	6.6	2.0	0.3	-	3.9	4.8	13.0	.366	-	-	-	3.1	4.2	.737

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 8
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2003-04	1976-77
Team	Seattle Supersonics	Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	-	All-Defensive First Team
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	All-Star Game
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Bulls Lost West Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	56	38.4	23.0	1.2	3.9	5.1	4.8	1.3	0.2	2.8	2.4	8.0	18.2	.440	2.6	6.8	.392	4.4	4.8	.904
Norm Van Lier	82	37.8	10.2	1.3	3.2	4.5	7.8	1.6	0.2	-	3.3	3.7	8.9	.412	-	-	-	2.9	3.7	.778

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	3	44.7	5.3	1.7	3.3	5.0	9.7	3.3	0.3	-	4.7	1.0	6.3	.158	-	-	-	3.3	4.0	.833


Season 9
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2004-05	1977-78
Team	Seattle Supersonics	Chicago Bulls
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
	-	All-Defensive Second Team
	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Supersonics Lost West Conf Semis	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	78	39.3	23.9	1.0	3.4	4.4	3.7	1.1	0.1	2.2	2.1	8.2	19.2	.428	2.7	7.1	.376	4.8	5.5	.883
Norm Van Lier	78	32.4	7.3	1.1	2.5	3.6	6.8	1.8	0.1	2.6	3.6	2.6	6.1	.419	-	-	-	2.2	2.9	.751

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	11	39.6	26.5	1.1	3.2	4.3	3.9	1.3	0.4	3.1	2.0	9.3	19.5	.474	2.8	7.5	.378	5.1	5.7	.889
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 10
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2005-06	1978-79
Team	Seattle Supersonics	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	78	38.7	25.1	0.9	3.3	4.3	3.7	1.3	0.2	2.4	1.9	8.7	19.2	.454	3.4	8.4	.412	4.2	4.6	.903
Norm Van Lier	38	14.6	2.8	0.2	0.8	1.1	4.2	1.1	0.1	1.3	2.8	0.8	2.0	.390	-	-	-	1.2	1.4	.904

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 11
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2006-07	-
Team	Seattle Supersonics	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Did Not Play	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	55	40.3	26.4	1.0	3.5	4.5	4.1	1.5	0.2	2.8	2.1	9.2	21.0	.438	3.0	8.1	.372	5.1	5.6	.903
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 12
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2007-08	-
Team	Boston Celtics	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	NBA Champion	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	73	35.9	17.4	1.0	2.6	3.7	3.1	0.9	0.2	1.7	2.0	6.0	13.5	.445	2.5	6.2	.398	2.9	3.2	.907
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	26	38.0	15.6	1.0	2.8	3.8	2.7	0.9	0.3	1.5	2.4	5.1	12.0	.428	2.1	5.3	.396	3.2	3.5	.913
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 13
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2008-09	-
Team	Boston Celtics	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Celtics Lost East Conf Semis	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	79	36.4	18.2	0.8	2.7	3.5	2.8	0.9	0.2	1.7	2.0	6.3	13.2	.480	2.5	6.2	.409	3.0	3.2	.952
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	14	40.4	18.3	0.9	3.0	3.9	2.6	1.1	0.4	1.8	2.5	5.9	14.7	.403	2.5	7.1	.350	3.9	4.1	.948
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 14
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2009-10	-
Team	Boston Celtics	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Celtics Lost NBA Finals	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	80	35.2	16.3	0.6	2.6	3.2	2.6	0.8	0.3	1.6	2.3	5.8	12.2	.477	1.8	5.0	.363	2.9	3.2	.913
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	24	38.5	16.1	0.5	2.8	3.3	2.6	0.9	0.1	1.5	3.1	5.5	12.7	.431	2.3	6.0	.386	2.9	3.3	.863
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 15
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2010-11	-
Team	Boston Celtics	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Celtics Lost East Conf Semis	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	80	36.1	16.5	0.6	2.8	3.4	2.7	1.0	0.2	1.5	1.8	6.0	12.2	.491	2.1	4.7	.444	2.4	2.7	.881
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	9	40.1	18.9	0.6	3.2	3.8	2.4	1.2	0.1	1.1	2.3	6.3	12.1	.523	3.6	6.2	.571	2.7	2.8	.960
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 16
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2011-12	-
Team	Boston Celtics	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Celtics Lost East Conf Finals	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	46	34.0	14.2	0.3	2.8	3.1	2.4	1.1	0.2	1.5	1.8	4.9	10.7	.458	2.3	5.1	.453	2.1	2.3	.915
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	18	34.2	10.7	0.4	3.7	4.1	1.0	0.9	0.1	0.9	2.3	3.7	9.3	.395	1.6	5.1	.304	1.8	2.5	.711
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 17
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2012-13	-
Team	Miami Heat	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	NBA Champion	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	79	25.8	10.9	0.5	2.2	2.7	1.7	0.8	0.2	1.3	1.6	3.7	8.2	.449	1.8	4.2	.419	1.8	2.0	.886
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	23	24.9	10.2	0.6	2.2	2.8	1.3	0.5	0.1	1.2	1.8	3.2	7.5	.430	1.7	4.2	.406	2.0	2.3	.870
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 18
	Ray Allen	Norm Van Lier
Season	2013-14	-
Team	Miami Heat	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Heat Lost NBA Finals	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	73	26.5	9.6	0.3	2.5	2.8	2.0	0.7	0.1	1.2	1.6	3.3	7.4	.442	1.6	4.2	.375	1.4	1.6	.905
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Ray Allen	20	26.4	9.3	0.7	2.7	3.4	1.6	0.7	0.2	1.2	2.1	3.0	7.2	.413	1.7	4.3	.388	1.7	1.9	.919
Norm Van Lier	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Ray Allen vs. Norm Van Lier Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Norm Van Lier and Ray Allen, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Their Careers

Comparison Season by Season

Rookie Season

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Season 6

Season 7

Season 8

Season 9

Season 10

Season 11

Season 12

Season 13

Season 14

Season 15

Season 16

Season 17

Season 18