Patrick Ewing vs. Ervin Johnson Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Ervin Johnson and Patrick Ewing, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season / Games against each other

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Patrick Ewing played 17 years in the NBA, 4 more than Ervin Johnson, who played 13. Patrick Ewing had the first of his seasons in 1985-86, while Ervin Johnson had his rookie season in 1993-94. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers
Player	Total Seasons	Playoffs Played	NBA Years
Patrick Ewing	17	14	1985-86 to 2001-02
Ervin Johnson	13	9	1993-94 to 2005-06

Comparison Season by Season
Jump to season: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17


Rookie Season
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1985-86	1993-94
Team	New York Knicks	Seattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards	Rookie of the Year	-
	All-Rookie First Team	-
	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Supersonics Lost West Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	50	35.4	20.0	2.5	6.5	9.0	2.0	1.1	2.1	3.4	3.8	7.7	16.3	.474	0.0	0.1	.000	4.5	6.1	.739
Ervin Johnson	45	6.2	2.6	1.1	1.6	2.6	0.2	0.2	0.5	0.5	1.0	1.0	2.4	.415	0.0	0.0	-	0.6	1.0	.630

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Ervin Johnson	2	4.0	0.0	0.0	2.0	2.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.5	0.5	0.0	0.5	.000	0.0	0.0	-	0.0	0.0	-


Season 2
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1986-87	1994-95
Team	New York Knicks	Seattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Did Not Play	Supersonics Lost West Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	63	35.0	21.5	2.5	6.3	8.8	1.7	1.4	2.3	3.6	3.9	8.4	16.7	.503	0.0	0.1	.000	4.7	6.6	.713
Ervin Johnson	64	14.2	3.1	1.6	2.9	4.5	0.3	0.3	1.0	0.8	2.5	1.3	3.0	.443	0.0	0.0	.000	0.5	0.7	.630

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Ervin Johnson	4	13.5	3.5	2.0	3.3	5.3	0.0	0.3	1.0	0.3	4.0	1.0	3.5	.286	0.0	0.0	-	1.5	1.5	1.000


Season 3
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1987-88	1995-96
Team	New York Knicks	Seattle Supersonics
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
	All-Defensive Second Team	-
	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf 1st Rd	Supersonics Lost NBA Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	82	31.0	20.2	3.0	5.3	8.2	1.5	1.3	3.0	3.5	4.0	8.0	14.4	.555	0.0	0.0	.000	4.2	5.8	.716
Ervin Johnson	81	18.8	5.5	1.6	3.8	5.3	0.6	0.5	1.6	1.2	3.0	2.2	4.3	.511	0.0	0.0	.333	1.0	1.6	.669

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	4	38.3	18.8	4.0	8.8	12.8	2.5	1.5	3.3	2.8	4.3	7.0	14.3	.491	0.0	0.3	.000	4.8	5.5	.864
Ervin Johnson	18	14.1	3.1	1.6	2.3	3.9	0.4	0.3	0.8	0.8	2.5	1.3	3.4	.371	0.0	0.0	-	0.5	0.6	.818


Season 4
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1988-89	1996-97
Team	New York Knicks	Denver Nuggets
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
	All-Defensive Second Team	-
	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	80	36.2	22.7	2.7	6.6	9.3	2.4	1.5	3.5	3.3	3.9	9.1	16.0	.567	0.0	0.1	.000	4.5	6.1	.746
Ervin Johnson	82	31.7	7.1	2.8	8.3	11.1	0.9	0.8	2.8	1.4	3.5	3.0	5.7	.520	0.0	0.0	.000	1.2	1.9	.615

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	9	37.8	19.9	2.6	7.4	10.0	2.2	1.0	2.0	1.7	3.9	7.8	16.0	.486	0.0	0.0	-	4.3	5.8	.750
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 5
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1989-90	1997-98
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-NBA First Team	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	82	38.6	28.6	2.9	8.0	10.9	2.2	1.0	4.0	3.4	4.0	11.2	20.4	.551	0.0	0.0	.250	6.1	7.9	.775
Ervin Johnson	81	27.9	8.0	3.0	5.5	8.5	0.7	1.0	2.0	1.4	4.0	3.1	5.8	.537	0.0	0.0	-	1.8	2.9	.601

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	10	39.5	29.4	2.1	8.4	10.5	3.1	1.3	2.0	2.7	4.1	11.4	21.9	.521	0.1	0.2	.500	6.5	7.9	.823
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 6
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1990-91	1998-99
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf 1st Rd	Bucks Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	81	38.3	26.6	2.4	8.8	11.2	3.0	1.0	3.2	3.6	3.5	10.4	20.3	.514	0.0	0.1	.000	5.7	7.7	.745
Ervin Johnson	50	20.5	5.1	2.4	4.0	6.4	0.4	0.6	1.1	0.9	3.0	1.9	3.8	.508	0.0	0.0	-	1.3	2.1	.610

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	3	36.7	16.7	0.7	9.3	10.0	2.0	0.3	1.7	3.7	4.0	6.0	15.0	.400	0.0	0.0	-	4.7	6.0	.778
Ervin Johnson	3	30.7	4.3	2.7	3.3	6.0	0.3	0.7	1.7	0.0	3.0	2.0	4.3	.462	0.0	0.0	-	0.3	0.7	.500


Season 7
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1991-92	1999-00
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
	All-Defensive Second Team	-
	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Bucks Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	82	38.4	24.0	2.8	8.5	11.2	1.9	1.1	3.0	2.5	3.4	9.7	18.6	.522	0.0	0.1	.167	4.6	6.2	.738
Ervin Johnson	80	26.6	4.8	2.9	5.2	8.1	0.6	1.0	1.6	1.0	3.7	1.8	3.5	.516	0.0	0.0	.000	1.2	2.0	.605

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	12	40.2	22.7	2.8	8.3	11.1	2.3	0.6	2.6	1.9	4.1	9.1	19.9	.456	0.0	0.1	.000	4.5	6.1	.740
Ervin Johnson	5	30.8	6.2	2.8	7.0	9.8	0.4	1.2	1.2	0.6	3.8	2.0	4.0	.500	0.0	0.0	-	2.2	3.6	.611


Season 8
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1992-93	2000-01
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Finals	Bucks Lost East Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	81	37.1	24.2	2.4	9.7	12.1	1.9	0.9	2.0	3.3	3.5	9.6	19.1	.503	0.0	0.1	.143	4.9	6.9	.719
Ervin Johnson	82	24.2	3.2	2.5	5.0	7.5	0.5	0.5	1.2	0.6	3.1	1.3	2.4	.545	0.0	0.0	-	0.6	1.1	.538

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	15	40.3	25.5	2.9	8.1	10.9	2.4	1.1	2.1	2.6	4.0	11.0	21.5	.512	0.1	0.1	1.000	3.4	5.3	.638
Ervin Johnson	18	32.3	5.4	3.3	7.5	10.8	0.6	0.5	2.1	0.7	2.9	2.2	3.8	.574	0.0	0.0	-	1.1	1.8	.625


Season 9
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1993-94	2001-02
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost NBA Finals	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	79	37.6	24.5	2.8	8.4	11.2	2.3	1.1	2.7	3.3	3.5	9.4	19.0	.496	0.1	0.2	.286	5.6	7.4	.765
Ervin Johnson	81	20.5	2.6	1.8	4.0	5.8	0.3	0.5	1.0	0.6	2.7	1.1	2.4	.461	0.0	0.0	.000	0.4	0.8	.455

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	25	41.3	21.9	3.5	8.2	11.7	2.6	1.3	3.0	3.3	3.8	8.4	19.2	.437	0.2	0.4	.364	4.9	6.5	.755
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 10
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1994-95	2002-03
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Bucks Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	79	37.0	23.9	2.0	9.0	11.0	2.7	0.9	2.0	3.2	3.4	9.2	18.4	.503	0.1	0.3	.286	5.3	7.1	.750
Ervin Johnson	69	17.0	2.2	1.7	2.6	4.3	0.3	0.5	0.9	0.5	2.6	0.9	2.0	.452	0.0	0.0	-	0.4	0.6	.682

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	11	36.3	19.0	1.5	8.1	9.6	2.5	0.5	2.3	2.7	4.6	7.3	14.2	.513	0.1	0.3	.333	4.4	6.4	.686
Ervin Johnson	6	12.5	1.0	1.0	3.0	4.0	0.5	0.5	0.8	0.5	3.3	0.5	1.3	.375	0.0	0.0	-	0.0	0.0	-


Season 11
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1995-96	2003-04
Team	New York Knicks	Minnesota Timberwolves
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Timberwolves Lost West Conf Finals

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	76	36.6	22.5	2.1	8.5	10.6	2.1	0.9	2.4	2.9	3.3	8.9	19.2	.466	0.1	0.4	.143	4.6	6.1	.761
Ervin Johnson	66	14.6	1.9	0.9	2.6	3.5	0.4	0.4	0.7	0.5	2.4	0.8	1.6	.534	0.0	0.0	.000	0.3	0.4	.607

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	8	41.0	21.5	1.4	9.3	10.6	1.9	0.1	3.1	3.8	2.8	8.1	17.1	.474	0.1	0.3	.500	5.1	7.9	.651
Ervin Johnson	18	19.8	2.7	1.5	3.2	4.7	0.7	0.6	0.6	0.3	3.1	1.1	2.1	.500	0.0	0.0	-	0.6	0.9	.625


Season 12
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1996-97	2004-05
Team	New York Knicks	Minnesota Timberwolves
Honors & Awards	All-NBA Second Team	-
Honors & Awards	All-Star Game	-
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Did Not Play

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	78	37.0	22.4	2.2	8.4	10.7	2.0	0.9	2.4	3.4	3.2	8.4	17.2	.488	0.0	0.1	.222	5.6	7.5	.754
Ervin Johnson	46	8.9	1.6	0.9	1.5	2.5	0.1	0.2	0.3	0.4	1.9	0.6	1.2	.519	0.0	0.0	1.000	0.3	0.5	.640

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	9	39.7	22.6	2.9	7.7	10.6	1.9	0.3	2.4	3.0	3.3	9.8	18.6	.527	0.0	0.1	.000	3.0	4.7	.643
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 13
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1997-98	2005-06
Team	New York Knicks	Milwaukee Bucks
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Semis	Bucks Lost East Conf 1st Rd

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	26	32.6	20.8	2.3	7.9	10.2	1.1	0.6	2.2	3.0	2.8	7.8	15.5	.504	0.0	0.1	.000	5.2	7.2	.720
Ervin Johnson	18	4.5	0.8	0.3	1.1	1.3	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.3	1.3	0.4	0.9	.412	0.0	0.0	-	0.1	0.1	.500

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	4	33.3	14.0	2.3	5.8	8.0	1.3	0.8	1.3	2.5	4.0	5.0	14.0	.357	0.0	0.0	-	4.0	6.8	.593
Ervin Johnson	3	3.7	0.7	0.0	1.3	1.3	0.0	0.3	0.0	0.3	0.3	0.0	0.3	.000	0.0	0.0	-	0.7	0.7	1.000


Season 14
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1998-99	-
Team	New York Knicks	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Knicks Lost NBA Finals	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	38	34.2	17.3	1.9	8.0	9.9	1.1	0.8	2.6	2.6	2.8	6.5	14.9	.435	0.0	0.1	.000	4.3	6.1	.706
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	11	31.5	13.1	1.3	7.5	8.7	0.5	0.6	0.7	0.9	3.2	5.3	12.3	.430	0.0	0.0	-	2.5	3.3	.778
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 15
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	1999-00	-
Team	New York Knicks	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Knicks Lost East Conf Finals	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	62	32.8	15.0	2.3	7.5	9.7	0.9	0.6	1.4	2.3	3.2	5.8	12.5	.466	0.0	0.0	.000	3.3	4.6	.731
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	14	32.9	14.6	2.1	7.4	9.5	0.4	1.1	1.4	1.9	3.4	5.1	12.1	.418	0.0	0.0	-	4.4	6.4	.697
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 16
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	2000-01	-
Team	Seattle Supersonics	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Did Not Play	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	79	26.7	9.6	1.6	5.8	7.4	1.2	0.7	1.2	1.9	2.9	3.7	8.7	.430	0.0	0.0	.000	2.2	3.2	.685
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-


Season 17
	Patrick Ewing	Ervin Johnson
Season	2001-02	-
Team	Orlando Magic	-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs	Magic Lost East Conf 1st Rd	-

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Regular Season Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	65	13.9	6.0	0.9	3.1	4.0	0.5	0.3	0.7	1.0	2.0	2.3	5.1	.444	0.0	0.0	.000	1.4	2.1	.701
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Playoffs Stats
	G	Min	Pts	ORb	DRb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	PF	FGM / A		%	3PM / A		%	FTM / A		%
Patrick Ewing	4	17.0	6.5	1.3	4.3	5.5	1.0	0.3	1.0	0.5	3.0	2.0	6.3	.320	0.0	0.3	.000	2.5	4.3	.588
Ervin Johnson	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Patrick Ewing vs. Ervin Johnson Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Ervin Johnson and Patrick Ewing, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

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Comparison Season by Season

Rookie Season

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Season 6

Season 7

Season 8

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Season 10

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Season 12

Season 13

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Season 17