John Collins vs. Norm Van Lier Season by Season Comparison
Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Norm Van Lier and John Collins, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.
Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.
John Collins played 7 years in the NBA, 3 less than Norm Van Lier, who played 10. John Collins had the first of his seasons in 2017-18, while Norm Van Lier had his rookie season in 1969-70. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.
Their Careers |
Player |
Total Seasons |
Playoffs Played |
NBA Years |
John Collins |
7 |
3 |
2017-18 to 2023-24 |
Norm Van Lier |
10 |
5 |
1969-70 to 1978-79 |
Comparison Season by Season |
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|
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Rookie Season |
|
John Collins |
Norm Van Lier |
Season |
2017-18 | 1969-70 |
Team |
Atlanta Hawks | Cincinnati Royals |
Honors & Awards |
All-Rookie Second Team | - |
Playoffs |
Did Not Play | Did Not Play |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
74 |
24.1 |
10.5 |
2.4 |
4.9 |
7.3 |
1.3 |
0.6 |
1.1 |
1.4 |
2.9 |
4.2 |
7.4 |
.576 |
0.2 |
0.6 |
.340 |
1.8 |
2.5 |
.715 |
Norm Van Lier |
81 |
35.7 |
9.5 |
- |
- |
5.0 |
6.2 |
- |
- |
- |
4.1 |
3.7 |
9.2 |
.403 |
- |
- |
- |
2.0 |
2.8 |
.741 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
61 |
30.0 |
19.5 |
3.6 |
6.2 |
9.8 |
2.0 |
0.4 |
0.6 |
2.0 |
3.3 |
7.6 |
13.6 |
.560 |
0.9 |
2.6 |
.348 |
3.3 |
4.4 |
.763 |
Norm Van Lier |
82 |
40.5 |
16.0 |
- |
- |
7.1 |
10.1 |
- |
- |
- |
4.2 |
5.8 |
13.9 |
.420 |
- |
- |
- |
4.4 |
5.4 |
.816 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
41 |
33.2 |
21.6 |
2.8 |
7.3 |
10.1 |
1.5 |
0.8 |
1.6 |
1.8 |
3.4 |
8.6 |
14.8 |
.583 |
1.4 |
3.6 |
.401 |
2.9 |
3.7 |
.800 |
Norm Van Lier |
79 |
30.6 |
11.5 |
- |
- |
4.5 |
6.9 |
- |
- |
- |
3.0 |
4.2 |
9.6 |
.439 |
- |
- |
- |
3.0 |
3.8 |
.790 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
4 |
36.0 |
14.0 |
- |
- |
6.3 |
8.3 |
- |
- |
- |
3.8 |
5.5 |
13.3 |
.415 |
- |
- |
- |
3.0 |
3.5 |
.857 |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
63 |
29.3 |
17.6 |
1.9 |
5.5 |
7.4 |
1.2 |
0.5 |
1.0 |
1.3 |
3.1 |
6.8 |
12.2 |
.556 |
1.3 |
3.3 |
.399 |
2.7 |
3.2 |
.833 |
Norm Van Lier |
80 |
36.0 |
13.9 |
- |
- |
5.5 |
7.1 |
- |
- |
- |
3.4 |
5.9 |
13.3 |
.445 |
- |
- |
- |
2.1 |
2.6 |
.787 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
18 |
32.0 |
13.9 |
2.0 |
6.7 |
8.7 |
0.9 |
0.4 |
0.6 |
1.3 |
3.3 |
5.6 |
10.1 |
.549 |
1.1 |
3.1 |
.357 |
1.7 |
2.0 |
.833 |
Norm Van Lier |
7 |
36.9 |
14.4 |
- |
- |
5.3 |
5.1 |
- |
- |
- |
4.6 |
6.4 |
18.4 |
.349 |
- |
- |
- |
1.6 |
2.1 |
.733 |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
54 |
30.8 |
16.2 |
1.7 |
6.1 |
7.8 |
1.8 |
0.6 |
1.0 |
1.1 |
3.0 |
6.3 |
11.9 |
.526 |
1.2 |
3.3 |
.364 |
2.5 |
3.1 |
.793 |
Norm Van Lier |
80 |
35.8 |
14.3 |
1.4 |
3.3 |
4.7 |
6.9 |
2.0 |
0.1 |
- |
3.5 |
5.3 |
13.1 |
.406 |
- |
- |
- |
3.6 |
4.6 |
.778 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
5 |
24.4 |
9.4 |
0.4 |
4.2 |
4.6 |
1.2 |
0.4 |
0.2 |
1.0 |
2.4 |
3.8 |
7.8 |
.487 |
0.8 |
2.2 |
.364 |
1.0 |
2.0 |
.500 |
Norm Van Lier |
11 |
42.4 |
14.6 |
1.0 |
3.3 |
4.3 |
6.8 |
1.5 |
0.3 |
- |
3.7 |
5.5 |
13.1 |
.424 |
- |
- |
- |
3.5 |
4.3 |
.830 |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
71 |
30.0 |
13.1 |
1.1 |
5.4 |
6.5 |
1.2 |
0.6 |
1.0 |
1.1 |
3.1 |
5.1 |
10.0 |
.508 |
1.0 |
3.4 |
.292 |
2.0 |
2.5 |
.803 |
Norm Van Lier |
70 |
37.0 |
15.0 |
1.2 |
3.5 |
4.7 |
5.8 |
2.0 |
0.2 |
- |
3.5 |
5.8 |
13.9 |
.420 |
- |
- |
- |
3.4 |
4.3 |
.792 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
6 |
27.3 |
11.3 |
1.2 |
3.2 |
4.3 |
0.8 |
0.3 |
1.0 |
1.5 |
2.2 |
4.3 |
10.0 |
.433 |
1.8 |
5.3 |
.344 |
0.8 |
1.0 |
.833 |
Norm Van Lier |
13 |
42.1 |
15.1 |
1.4 |
3.8 |
5.2 |
4.7 |
1.5 |
0.4 |
- |
4.0 |
5.2 |
12.6 |
.409 |
- |
- |
- |
4.8 |
6.4 |
.747 |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
68 |
28.0 |
15.1 |
2.3 |
6.1 |
8.5 |
1.1 |
0.6 |
0.9 |
1.4 |
2.8 |
5.8 |
11.0 |
.532 |
1.3 |
3.4 |
.371 |
2.2 |
2.7 |
.795 |
Norm Van Lier |
76 |
39.8 |
12.6 |
1.8 |
3.6 |
5.4 |
6.6 |
2.0 |
0.3 |
- |
3.9 |
4.8 |
13.0 |
.366 |
- |
- |
- |
3.1 |
4.2 |
.737 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
82 |
37.8 |
10.2 |
1.3 |
3.2 |
4.5 |
7.8 |
1.6 |
0.2 |
- |
3.3 |
3.7 |
8.9 |
.412 |
- |
- |
- |
2.9 |
3.7 |
.778 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
3 |
44.7 |
5.3 |
1.7 |
3.3 |
5.0 |
9.7 |
3.3 |
0.3 |
- |
4.7 |
1.0 |
6.3 |
.158 |
- |
- |
- |
3.3 |
4.0 |
.833 |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
78 |
32.4 |
7.3 |
1.1 |
2.5 |
3.6 |
6.8 |
1.8 |
0.1 |
2.6 |
3.6 |
2.6 |
6.1 |
.419 |
- |
- |
- |
2.2 |
2.9 |
.751 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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Regular Season Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
38 |
14.6 |
2.8 |
0.2 |
0.8 |
1.1 |
4.2 |
1.1 |
0.1 |
1.3 |
2.8 |
0.8 |
2.0 |
.390 |
- |
- |
- |
1.2 |
1.4 |
.904 |
|
Playoffs Stats |
|
G |
Min |
Pts |
ORb |
DRb |
Reb |
Ast |
Stl |
Blk |
TO |
PF |
FGM / A |
% |
3PM / A |
% |
FTM / A |
% |
John Collins |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
Norm Van Lier |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
- | - | - |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |