Joe Dumars vs. Clifford Ray Season by Season Comparison

Side by side comparison of each NBA season of Clifford Ray and Joe Dumars, from their rookie seasons to their last year played, in chronological order with awards, stats, championships and playoff performance of their teams every year.

Player comparisons:
Career comparison / Season by season

Who had the better rookie season? Who had best stats in their 10th season? Who won a championship first? These questions and many others, are answered here.

Joe Dumars played 14 years in the NBA, 4 more than Clifford Ray, who played 10. Joe Dumars had the first of his seasons in 1985-86, while Clifford Ray had his rookie season in 1971-72. With that starting point, here you can take a look at each of their seasons side by side and compare how their careers evolved in achivements, awards and championships won, the stats they recorded both in the Regular Season and the Playoffs and how their teams performed in the postseason.

Their Careers

Player
Total Seasons Playoffs Played NBA Years
Joe Dumars 14 10 1985-86 to 1998-99
Clifford Ray 10 6 1971-72 to 1980-81

Comparison Season by Season

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Rookie Season

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1985-861971-72
Team Detroit PistonsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Rookie First TeamAchievement All-Rookie First Team
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdBulls Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 23.9 9.4 0.7 0.7 1.5 4.8 0.8 0.1 1.9 2.4 3.5 7.3 .481 0.1 0.2 .313 2.3 2.9 .798
Clifford Ray 82 22.8 7.0 - - 10.6 3.1 - - - 3.6 2.7 5.4 .499 - - - 1.6 2.7 .615
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 4 36.8 15.0 1.5 1.8 3.3 6.3 1.0 0.0 1.8 4.0 6.3 10.3 .610 0.0 0.0 - 2.5 3.8 .667
Clifford Ray 4 40.3 15.3 - - 16.5 4.0 - - - 3.8 6.8 12.8 .529 - - - 1.8 2.3 .778

Season 2

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1986-871972-73
Team Detroit PistonsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf FinalsBulls Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 79 30.9 11.8 0.6 1.5 2.1 4.5 1.1 0.1 2.2 2.5 4.7 9.5 .493 0.1 0.3 .409 2.3 3.1 .748
Clifford Ray 73 27.5 8.6 - - 10.9 3.7 - - - 3.2 3.5 7.1 .492 - - - 1.6 2.6 .619
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 15 31.5 12.7 0.5 0.7 1.3 4.8 0.8 0.1 1.8 1.7 5.2 9.7 .538 0.1 0.2 .667 2.1 2.7 .780
Clifford Ray 5 7.2 1.2 - - 1.8 0.2 - - - 0.4 0.6 1.6 .375 - - - 0.0 0.0 -

Season 3

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1987-881973-74
Team Detroit PistonsChicago Bulls
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost NBA FinalsBulls Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 33.3 14.2 0.8 1.7 2.4 4.7 1.1 0.2 2.1 1.9 5.5 11.7 .472 0.0 0.2 .211 3.1 3.8 .815
Clifford Ray 80 32.9 9.3 3.6 8.7 12.2 3.1 0.7 2.2 - 3.5 3.9 7.7 .511 - - - 1.5 2.5 .608
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 23 35.0 12.3 0.8 1.4 2.2 4.9 0.6 0.1 1.7 2.2 4.9 10.7 .457 0.1 0.3 .333 2.4 2.7 .889
Clifford Ray 11 32.9 9.7 4.0 7.1 11.1 3.2 1.3 1.9 - 4.1 4.6 9.3 .500 - - - 0.5 1.4 .333

Season 4

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1988-891974-75
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards Achievement Finals MVP-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionNBA Champion NBA Champion
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 69 34.9 17.2 0.8 1.7 2.5 5.7 0.9 0.1 2.6 1.5 6.6 13.1 .505 0.2 0.4 .483 3.8 4.4 .850
Clifford Ray 82 30.7 9.4 3.2 7.5 10.6 2.2 1.2 1.4 - 3.7 3.6 7.0 .522 - - - 2.1 3.5 .602
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 17 36.5 17.6 0.6 1.9 2.6 5.6 0.7 0.1 1.8 1.8 6.2 13.7 .455 0.1 0.7 .083 5.1 5.9 .861
Clifford Ray 17 29.1 6.1 3.2 6.5 9.8 2.2 0.8 1.2 - 3.5 2.1 4.1 .522 - - - 1.9 3.1 .604

Season 5

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1989-901975-76
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs NBA Champion NBA ChampionWarriors Lost West Conf Finals
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 75 34.4 17.8 0.8 2.0 2.8 4.9 0.8 0.0 1.9 1.7 6.8 14.1 .480 0.3 0.7 .400 4.0 4.4 .900
Clifford Ray 82 26.6 6.9 3.3 6.2 9.5 1.8 1.0 1.0 - 3.0 2.6 4.9 .525 - - - 1.7 2.8 .609
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 20 37.7 18.2 0.9 1.3 2.2 4.8 1.1 0.0 2.7 1.9 6.5 14.2 .458 0.3 1.0 .263 5.0 5.7 .876
Clifford Ray 13 29.0 9.1 3.3 6.7 10.0 1.5 1.5 1.5 - 3.6 3.7 6.1 .608 - - - 1.7 2.6 .647

Season 6

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1990-911976-77
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Third Team-
Achievement All-Defensive Second Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf FinalsWarriors Lost West Conf Semis
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 80 38.1 20.4 0.8 1.6 2.3 5.5 1.1 0.1 2.4 1.7 7.8 16.2 .481 0.2 0.6 .311 4.6 5.2 .890
Clifford Ray 77 26.2 8.2 2.6 5.4 8.0 1.5 1.0 1.1 - 3.1 3.4 5.8 .584 - - - 1.4 2.6 .528
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 15 39.2 20.6 1.4 1.9 3.3 4.1 1.1 0.1 1.1 2.2 7.0 16.3 .429 1.1 2.8 .405 5.5 6.5 .845
Clifford Ray 10 30.4 10.0 5.4 6.1 11.5 1.5 0.4 0.9 - 3.7 4.2 7.6 .553 - - - 1.6 2.8 .571

Season 7

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1991-921977-78
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st RdDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 82 38.9 19.9 1.0 1.3 2.3 4.6 0.9 0.1 2.4 1.8 7.2 16.0 .448 0.6 1.5 .408 5.0 5.8 .867
Clifford Ray 79 28.7 8.8 3.0 6.6 9.6 1.9 0.9 1.1 1.9 3.7 3.4 6.0 .571 - - - 1.9 3.1 .609
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 44.2 16.8 1.0 0.6 1.6 3.2 1.0 0.2 1.4 2.2 6.4 13.6 .471 1.0 2.0 .500 3.0 3.8 .789
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 8

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1992-931978-79
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards Achievement All-NBA Second Team-
Achievement All-Defensive First Team-
Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 77 40.2 23.5 0.8 1.1 1.9 4.0 1.0 0.1 1.8 1.8 8.8 18.9 .466 1.5 3.9 .375 4.5 5.2 .864
Clifford Ray 82 23.4 6.9 2.6 4.8 7.4 1.7 0.6 0.6 1.9 3.2 2.8 5.4 .526 - - - 1.3 2.3 .558
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 9

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1993-941979-80
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
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Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 69 37.6 20.4 0.5 1.7 2.2 3.8 0.9 0.1 2.3 1.7 7.3 16.2 .452 1.8 4.6 .388 4.0 4.8 .836
Clifford Ray 81 20.8 6.0 1.5 4.2 5.8 2.3 0.6 0.4 1.9 3.3 2.5 4.7 .530 0.0 0.0 .000 1.0 1.8 .564
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 10

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1994-951980-81
Team Detroit PistonsGolden State Warriors
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Did Not PlayDid Not Play
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 67 38.0 18.1 0.7 1.7 2.4 5.5 1.1 0.1 3.3 2.3 6.2 14.5 .430 1.5 5.0 .305 4.1 5.1 .805
Clifford Ray 66 12.7 2.4 1.1 2.2 3.3 0.8 0.4 0.2 1.1 2.9 1.0 2.3 .421 0.0 0.0 - 0.4 0.9 .468
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 11

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1995-96-
Team Detroit Pistons-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 67 32.7 11.8 0.4 1.6 2.1 4.0 0.6 0.0 1.4 1.6 3.8 8.9 .426 1.8 4.4 .406 2.4 2.9 .822
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 3 41.0 13.7 1.7 2.7 4.3 3.7 0.0 0.0 2.3 1.7 5.3 11.7 .457 1.7 4.7 .357 1.3 1.3 1.000
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 12

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1996-97-
Team Detroit Pistons-
Honors & Awards Achievement All-Star Game-
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 79 37.0 14.7 0.5 1.9 2.4 4.0 0.7 0.0 1.6 1.2 4.9 11.1 .440 2.1 4.9 .432 2.8 3.2 .867
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 42.6 13.8 0.4 1.4 1.8 2.0 1.0 0.0 1.2 1.8 4.4 12.2 .361 1.2 4.6 .261 3.8 4.0 .950
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 13

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1997-98-
Team Detroit Pistons-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Did Not Play-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 72 32.3 13.1 0.2 1.3 1.4 3.5 0.6 0.0 1.2 1.4 4.6 11.0 .416 2.2 5.9 .371 1.8 2.1 .825
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars ------- --- ----------
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------

Season 14

Joe Dumars Clifford Ray
Season 1998-99-
Team Detroit Pistons-
Honors & Awards
Playoffs Pistons Lost East Conf 1st Rd-
more >>
Regular Season Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 38 29.4 11.3 0.3 1.5 1.8 3.5 0.6 0.1 1.4 1.3 3.8 9.2 .411 2.3 5.8 .403 1.3 1.6 .836
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------
Playoffs Stats
G Min Pts ORb DRb Reb Ast Stl Blk TO PF FGM / A % 3PM / A % FTM / A %
Joe Dumars 5 30.6 10.2 0.2 1.2 1.4 2.6 0.4 0.0 1.8 1.8 3.8 7.8 .487 2.0 3.8 .526 0.6 0.6 1.000
Clifford Ray ------- --- ----------